September 23, 2023

Welcome to a different episode of The Tim Ferriss Present. I’m very excited to publish this episode. That is an experimental format, and we’re calling it HERESIES.

The target of this format is to encourage and have fun impartial considering.

Please take pleasure in!

Bios of the co-hosts and visitors:

Kevin Kelly (@kevin2kelly) helped launch and edit Wired journal. He has written for The New York Instances and The Wall Road Journal, amongst many different publications. You will discover my most up-to-date interview with him at tim.weblog/kevinkelly. 

He’s the creator of the brand new guide Excellent Advice for Living: Wisdom I Wish I’d Known Earlier. Different books by Kevin Kelly embody Out of Control, the 1994 basic guide on decentralized emergent methods; The Silver Cord, a graphic novel about robots and angels; What Technology Wants, a strong principle of know-how; Vanishing Asia, his 50-year venture to {photograph} the disappearing cultures of Asia, and The Inevitable: Understanding the 12 Technological Forces That Will Shape Our Future, a New York Instances bestseller.

Kevin is at the moment co-chair of The Long Now Foundation, which is constructing a clock in a mountain that may tick for 10,000 years. He additionally has a each day weblog; a weekly podcast about cool instruments; and a weekly publication, Recomendo, which is a free, one-page checklist of six very temporary suggestions of cool stuff. He’s additionally a Senior Maverick at Wired. He lives in Pacifica, California.


Noah Feldman (@NoahRFeldman) is a Harvard professor, moral thinker and advisor, public mental, spiritual scholar and historian, and creator of 10 books, together with his newest, The Broken Constitution: Lincoln, Slavery, and the Refounding of America. You will discover my interview with him at tim.weblog/noah.

Noah is the founding father of Ethical Compass, which helps purchasers like Fb and eBay enhance moral decision-making by creating and implementing new governance options. Noah conceived and designed the Fb Oversight Board and continues to advise Fb on ethics and governance points.

Noah is host of the Deep Background podcast, a coverage and public affairs columnist for Bloomberg Opinion, and a former contributing author for The New York Instances. He served as senior constitutional advisor to the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq and subsequently suggested members of the Iraqi Governing Council on the drafting of Iraq’s interim structure.

He earned his A.B. summa cum laude from Harvard, ending first in his class. Chosen as a Rhodes Scholar, he earned a DPhil from Oxford College, writing his dissertation on Aristotle’s Ethics. He obtained his J.D. from Yale Legislation Faculty and clerked for Justice David Souter of the U.S. Supreme Court docket.

He’s the creator of 10 books, together with Divided by God: America’s Church-State Problem—and What We Should Do About ItWhat We Owe Iraq: War and the Ethics of Nation BuildingCool War: The United States, China, and the Future of Global CompetitionScorpions: The Battles and Triumphs of FDR’s Great Supreme Court Justices; and The Three Lives of James Madison: Genius, Partisan, President.

His upcoming guide is Bad Jew: A Perplexed Guide to God, Israel, and the Jewish People, which is at the moment out there for pre-order.


Maggie Spivey-Faulkner is an anthropological archaeologist and practitioner of Indigenous archaeology, at the moment working as an assistant professor within the Department of Anthropology on the College of Alberta. She additionally serves as an assistant chief of the Higher Georgia tribal city of the Pee Dee Indian Nation of Beaver Creek, a state-recognized Native American group in South Carolina. Her work focuses on utilizing anthropological information to upend dangerous misconceptions of Native American peoples embedded in public coverage, science, and the general public consciousness.

Maggie was raised in a tight-knit prolonged household in rural Hephzibah, Georgia. She is a world fellow of The Explorers Membership, a former junior fellow of the Harvard Society of Fellows, and a recipient of the Nationwide Science Basis Graduate Analysis Fellowship. She obtained her Ph.D. in anthropology from Washington College in St. Louis in 2018 and her A.B. from Harvard School in 2008. 


Joshua L. Steiner is a companion at SSW, a personal funding agency, and a senior adviser at Bloomberg, L.P., the place he was beforehand Head of Trade Verticals. Previous to becoming a member of Bloomberg, Steiner co-founded and was co-president of Quadrangle Group, LLC, a personal fairness and asset administration agency. Earlier than co-founding Quadrangle, he was a managing director at Lazard. From 1993 to 1995 he served as chief of workers for the U.S. Division of the Treasury.

He serves on the boards of Yale College, the Worldwide Rescue Committee, and the SNF Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins College. Steiner obtained a B.A. in historical past from Yale and an M.St. in fashionable historical past from Oxford College.

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#677: HERESIES — Exploring Animal Communication, Cloning People, The Risks of The American Dream, and Extra

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What was your favourite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.



  • [11:34] Defining “heresy.”
  • [14:22] Josh’s heresy: We have to train listening over speaking.
  • [32:48] Noah’s heresy: Constitutions are overrated.
  • [55:01] Maggie’s heresy: American middle-class tradition is ruining every part.
  • [1:14:54] Tim’s heresy: We’re on the cusp of meaningfully speaking with animals.
  • [1:35:23] Kevin’s heresy: Human cloning is OK.


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